Bugthread 7.0.1.319
TwinBit 15.12.2007 21:31 How to report bugs:
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three points are not followed. Jem 16.12.2007 00:02 KAV 319
Folder refresh delay issue - here, is still not fixed! - Are we going to have to live with this? I sincerely hope not... KL RLZ 16.12.2007 00:44 Bugs posted here still present. + this build fails DirectX, Keylogtest, GetRawInputData. The past build passed these tests... KL RLZ 16.12.2007 01:41 No localization: Click to view attachment (WebAV related) Jem 16.12.2007 02:15 QUOTE(KL RLZ @ 15.12.2007 21:44)
Bugs posted here still present. + this build fails DirectX, Keylogtest, GetRawInputData. The past build passed these tests...
I disagree. I can disable protection - this crashed in the last build. And, the Key Log tests you list all pass here. Are you sure you have Keylogger Detection selected?
KL RLZ 16.12.2007 02:21 I referred to Post #5 only.
Keylogger detection enabled, I'll try to find out what is causing this. 
highrisk 16.12.2007 02:26 Still having my browsing difficulties when behind a 2Wire Router...
KL RLZ 16.12.2007 02:37 After a reboot everything is OK 
What happened last time is beyond me 
Jem 16.12.2007 03:25 QUOTE(Jem @ 15.12.2007 21:02) KAV 319
Folder refresh delay issue - here, is still not fixed! - Are we going to have to live with this? I sincerely hope not...
How very very spooky!. Couple of reboots later I can't reproduce this anymore...
KL RLZ 16.12.2007 03:33 It getting more weird... After playing a game (CS:Source) KIS fails keylogtest only and after pausing/resuming the PDM it also fails the DirectX and GetRawInputData test. What bugs me even more is after some time (~15 mins) keylogtest is passed but I haven't changed any setting in KIS. (for now DirectX is not detected, maybe in a few minutes it will be... ) Note that I didn't get a keylogger warning when starting the game, unlike build .125 which did warn me. Strange...
Forgot to mention: after a reboot everything is fine again... until I play a game... after that detecting keyloggers is random. Jem 16.12.2007 04:58 QUOTE(Jem @ 16.12.2007 00:25)How very very spooky!. Couple of reboots later I can't reproduce this anymore...
Even more weird...after another reboot, the folder refresh delay issue is back again...what is going on!? HaZe303 16.12.2007 06:38 QUOTE(Jem @ 16.12.2007 02:58)Even more weird...after another reboot, the folder refresh delay issue is back again...what is going on!?
Whats going on? Well as you know its a beta, and furthermore its a "not completely tested" nct beta. Im afraid actually to use kaspersky beta´s. Too many bsod´s and other issues have been caused by these NCT beta´s. Its not worth it. I know we help Kaspersky if we do, but im no big fan of screwed up computers??
VIIZ 16.12.2007 07:21 I don't know is it a bug or something else(In build 308 it was ok!):
When trying to minimize kaspersky window by "left clicking" it in "taskbar", the kaspersky window will not minimize!!(All related kaspersky windows have this issue like update and settings windows) TwinBit 16.12.2007 08:18 If you mean the red colored "K" in SYSTRY, then it isn't a bug imho. The only way to minimize the KIS main window is by clicking the "minus" symbol at the main window. (-)=minimize (ˆ)=maximize (+)=close. Bernhard 16.12.2007 08:20 I must uncheck the option "I have allready a customer id" to activate with beta code.
Otherwise i get Popup with "try again 1 or 2 hours later". VIIZ 16.12.2007 08:39 No TwinBit I didn't mean systray!! I mean taskbar; here is an explain pic(I'm sure in build 308 it was ok and worked and it should work cause its like a standard way to minimize app's windows in MS Win!!)
Click to view attachment Bernhard 16.12.2007 08:47 Yes, same here, doesnt minimize by clicking in taskbar but i´m not 100% sure if it works at 308... Boyfriend 16.12.2007 09:47 QUOTE(KL RLZ @ 16.12.2007 03:33)It getting more weird... After playing a game (CS:Source) KIS fails keylogtest only and after pausing/resuming the PDM it also fails the DirectX and GetRawInputData test. What bugs me even more is after some time (~15 mins) keylogtest is passed but I haven't changed any setting in KIS. (for now DirectX is not detected, maybe in a few minutes it will be... ) Note that I didn't get a keylogger warning when starting the game, unlike build .125 which did warn me. Strange...
Forgot to mention: after a reboot everything is fine again... until I play a game... after that detecting keyloggers is random.
Confirmed. Sometimes, Kaspersky detect it and sometime it just don't. I don't know why?? After reboot the same as I mentioned above. KL RLZ 16.12.2007 12:35 QUOTE(VIIZ @ 16.12.2007 05:21)I don't know is it a bug or something else(In build 308 it was ok!):
When trying to minimize kaspersky window by "left clicking" it in "taskbar", the kaspersky window will not minimize!!(All related kaspersky windows have this issue like update and settings windows)
QUOTE(Bernhard @ 16.12.2007 06:47)Yes, same here, doesnt minimize by clicking in taskbar but i´m not 100% sure if it works at 308...
It's because of Self Defense, KIS protects the main window from being minimized because some malware can auto-minimize the main window too. Julian 16.12.2007 15:15 QUOTE(Jem @ 15.12.2007 22:02)KAV 319
Folder refresh delay issue - here, is still not fixed! - Are we going to have to live with this? I sincerely hope not...
I can confirm this issue.
If I open any folder I will always see the sand glass - not good
But what's really agitating me is that still some leaktests (e.g. ghost) aren't detected by the PDM if the IE isn't set as default browser.
I can tell you that this must be really a hole in the security concept of a lot of people who rely on the PDM of KAV / KIS and who aren't using the IE as default browser (like most security conscious people do)!
Edit: And it's not just theoretical leaktest detection. So the PDM misses real malware... Jem 16.12.2007 15:34 QUOTE(HaZe303 @ 16.12.2007 03:38)Whats going on? Well as you know its a beta, and furthermore its a "not completely tested" nct beta. Im afraid actually to use kaspersky beta´s. Too many bsod´s and other issues have been caused by these NCT beta´s. Its not worth it. I know we help Kaspersky if we do, but im no big fan of screwed up computers??
Sure, but this one was fixed in a previous build of MP1 Beta, and has 'crept' back in. VIIZ 16.12.2007 18:58 QUOTE(KL RLZ @ 16.12.2007 13:05)It's because of Self Defense, KIS protects the main window from being minimized because some malware can auto-minimize the main window too.
Thank You "KL RLZ"!! Yes you're right it's because of Self Defense(Nice protection)...
Fighting against malware needs advanced tools!!
VIIZ 16.12.2007 19:26 QUOTE(KL RLZ @ 16.12.2007 13:05) It's because of Self Defense, KIS protects the main window from being minimized because some malware can auto-minimize the main window too.
Thank You "KL RLZ"!! Yes you're right it's because of Self Defense(Nice protection)...
Fighting against malware needs advanced tools!!
1) Describe your test case
2) Attach traces on level 500 (if needed)
3) Screenshots always welcome
If something does not work for you or you have configurational issue.
Please press a "New Topic" button instead. Keep this thread to immediate
KIS/KAV/WKS/FS bugs only. Posting something is broken without a test case
will not push the issue forward or the trace logs.
Note from the Moderators:
To keep this thread easier to read and understand, please keep your reports
as detailed as possible. Posts will be split into a separate topic if the above
three points are not followed. Jem 16.12.2007 00:02 KAV 319
Folder refresh delay issue - here, is still not fixed! - Are we going to have to live with this? I sincerely hope not... KL RLZ 16.12.2007 00:44 Bugs posted here still present. + this build fails DirectX, Keylogtest, GetRawInputData. The past build passed these tests... KL RLZ 16.12.2007 01:41 No localization: Click to view attachment (WebAV related) Jem 16.12.2007 02:15 QUOTE(KL RLZ @ 15.12.2007 21:44)
Bugs posted here still present. + this build fails DirectX, Keylogtest, GetRawInputData. The past build passed these tests...I disagree. I can disable protection - this crashed in the last build. And, the Key Log tests you list all pass here. Are you sure you have Keylogger Detection selected?
KL RLZ 16.12.2007 02:21 I referred to Post #5 only.
Keylogger detection enabled, I'll try to find out what is causing this. highrisk 16.12.2007 02:26 Still having my browsing difficulties when behind a 2Wire Router... KL RLZ 16.12.2007 02:37 After a reboot everything is OK What happened last time is beyond me Jem 16.12.2007 03:25 QUOTE(Jem @ 15.12.2007 21:02) KAV 319Folder refresh delay issue - here, is still not fixed! - Are we going to have to live with this? I sincerely hope not...
How very very spooky!. Couple of reboots later I can't reproduce this anymore...
KL RLZ 16.12.2007 03:33 It getting more weird... After playing a game (CS:Source) KIS fails keylogtest only and after pausing/resuming the PDM it also fails the DirectX and GetRawInputData test. What bugs me even more is after some time (~15 mins) keylogtest is passed but I haven't changed any setting in KIS. (for now DirectX is not detected, maybe in a few minutes it will be... ) Note that I didn't get a keylogger warning when starting the game, unlike build .125 which did warn me. Strange... Forgot to mention: after a reboot everything is fine again... until I play a game... after that detecting keyloggers is random. Jem 16.12.2007 04:58 QUOTE(Jem @ 16.12.2007 00:25)
How very very spooky!. Couple of reboots later I can't reproduce this anymore... Even more weird...after another reboot, the folder refresh delay issue is back again...what is going on!? HaZe303 16.12.2007 06:38 QUOTE(Jem @ 16.12.2007 02:58)
Even more weird...after another reboot, the folder refresh delay issue is back again...what is going on!?Whats going on? Well as you know its a beta, and furthermore its a "not completely tested" nct beta. Im afraid actually to use kaspersky beta´s. Too many bsod´s and other issues have been caused by these NCT beta´s. Its not worth it. I know we help Kaspersky if we do, but im no big fan of screwed up computers??
VIIZ 16.12.2007 07:21 I don't know is it a bug or something else(In build 308 it was ok!):
When trying to minimize kaspersky window by "left clicking" it in "taskbar", the kaspersky window will not minimize!!(All related kaspersky windows have this issue like update and settings windows)
TwinBit 16.12.2007 08:18 If you mean the red colored "K" in SYSTRY, then it isn't a bug imho. The only way to minimize the KIS main window is by clicking the "minus" symbol at the main window. (-)=minimize (ˆ)=maximize (+)=close. Bernhard 16.12.2007 08:20 I must uncheck the option "I have allready a customer id" to activate with beta code.Otherwise i get Popup with "try again 1 or 2 hours later". VIIZ 16.12.2007 08:39 No TwinBit I didn't mean systray!! I mean taskbar; here is an explain pic(I'm sure in build 308 it was ok and worked and it should work cause its like a standard way to minimize app's windows in MS Win!!)
Click to view attachment Bernhard 16.12.2007 08:47 Yes, same here, doesnt minimize by clicking in taskbar but i´m not 100% sure if it works at 308... Boyfriend 16.12.2007 09:47 QUOTE(KL RLZ @ 16.12.2007 03:33)
It getting more weird... After playing a game (CS:Source) KIS fails keylogtest only and after pausing/resuming the PDM it also fails the DirectX and GetRawInputData test. What bugs me even more is after some time (~15 mins) keylogtest is passed but I haven't changed any setting in KIS. (for now DirectX is not detected, maybe in a few minutes it will be... ) Note that I didn't get a keylogger warning when starting the game, unlike build .125 which did warn me. Strange... Forgot to mention: after a reboot everything is fine again... until I play a game... after that detecting keyloggers is random.
Confirmed. Sometimes, Kaspersky detect it and sometime it just don't. I don't know why?? After reboot the same as I mentioned above. KL RLZ 16.12.2007 12:35 QUOTE(VIIZ @ 16.12.2007 05:21)
I don't know is it a bug or something else(In build 308 it was ok!):When trying to minimize kaspersky window by "left clicking" it in "taskbar", the kaspersky window will not minimize!!(All related kaspersky windows have this issue like update and settings windows)
QUOTE(Bernhard @ 16.12.2007 06:47)
Yes, same here, doesnt minimize by clicking in taskbar but i´m not 100% sure if it works at 308...It's because of Self Defense, KIS protects the main window from being minimized because some malware can auto-minimize the main window too. Julian 16.12.2007 15:15 QUOTE(Jem @ 15.12.2007 22:02)
KAV 319Folder refresh delay issue - here, is still not fixed! - Are we going to have to live with this? I sincerely hope not...
I can confirm this issue.
If I open any folder I will always see the sand glass - not good
But what's really agitating me is that still some leaktests (e.g. ghost) aren't detected by the PDM if the IE isn't set as default browser.
I can tell you that this must be really a hole in the security concept of a lot of people who rely on the PDM of KAV / KIS and who aren't using the IE as default browser (like most security conscious people do)!
Edit: And it's not just theoretical leaktest detection. So the PDM misses real malware... Jem 16.12.2007 15:34 QUOTE(HaZe303 @ 16.12.2007 03:38)
Whats going on? Well as you know its a beta, and furthermore its a "not completely tested" nct beta. Im afraid actually to use kaspersky beta´s. Too many bsod´s and other issues have been caused by these NCT beta´s. Its not worth it. I know we help Kaspersky if we do, but im no big fan of screwed up computers?? Sure, but this one was fixed in a previous build of MP1 Beta, and has 'crept' back in. VIIZ 16.12.2007 18:58 QUOTE(KL RLZ @ 16.12.2007 13:05)
It's because of Self Defense, KIS protects the main window from being minimized because some malware can auto-minimize the main window too.Thank You "KL RLZ"!! Yes you're right it's because of Self Defense(Nice protection)...
Fighting against malware needs advanced tools!!
VIIZ 16.12.2007 19:26 QUOTE(KL RLZ @ 16.12.2007 13:05) It's because of Self Defense, KIS protects the main window from being minimized because some malware can auto-minimize the main window too.Thank You "KL RLZ"!! Yes you're right it's because of Self Defense(Nice protection)...
Fighting against malware needs advanced tools!!