Norton Firewall 2003
Chuck57December 1st, 2003, 05:17 PMI just downloaded it to see what it was like. Does anyone have an opinion of it? I did a search here but didn't turn up much.
It has one feature I really like, in that it does a security scan and tells you all the programs that have, or could have Internet access. Pretty scary, but it lets you block them. Also, it can block referrers and OS info which I like too. It shows stealth everywhere I've checked.
What I don't like is, typical of norton, the size, about 30MB, but I've got the room. Overall, with a couple of days under my belt, I sort of like it.mvduDecember 1st, 2003, 06:51 PMI like it (the packet filtering and IDS are nice,) but I often have trouble getting Norton's products working right on re-install. And companies like Zone Labs focus more on the firewall part.CrazyMDecember 2nd, 2003, 01:30 AMHi Chuck57
{QUOTE-> I just downloaded it to see what it was like. Does anyone have an opinion of it? <-QUOTE}
NIS/NPF is a good firewall. While the current interface and automatic rules make it easy for most, it still allows experienced users to customize the rule set.
{QUOTE-> It has one feature I really like, in that it does a security scan and tells you all the programs that have, or could have Internet access. Pretty scary, but it lets you block them. <-QUOTE}
Selecting to block all those Internet enabled applications you are not sure of or may not use when doing the application scan is an option. If you leave them unchecked (no rule), NIS/NPF will still prompt for a rule if and when they try to access the network (Internet) for the first time. Not being a big fan of cluttered rule sets, I prefer to leave them unchecked and let the firewall prompt.
{QUOTE-> Overall, with a couple of days under my belt, I sort of like it. <-QUOTE}
What you like and are most comfortable with using and configuring is always a factor in deciding what to use.
Regards,
CrazyMmvduDecember 7th, 2003, 12:16 PMAre there more opinions of the Norton firewall?
You might as well stay with NPF 2003 if you get it - NPF 2004 is pretty much the same.GraystokeDecember 8th, 2003, 02:39 AMI've been using NPF 2004 for about a month and a half now. I like it. It's really easy to set up and use right out of the box if you like, which is what I'm doing. It has a great pop up and ad blocker. I haven't seen a pop up/pop under or banner ad since I installed it. I am stealth at all the tests sites, GRC, PC Flank, and Sygate.
I ran the trial version of NPF 2003 just before 2004 came out. They're basically the same, but I had to have the new one. ;)mvduDecember 8th, 2003, 06:26 PMThe problem with the active content is the list of sites they put in. This alone would be enough for me to uninstall.GraystokeDecember 8th, 2003, 09:55 PM{QUOTE-> quoting: mvdu link=board=23;threadid=17127;start=0#msg108312 date=1070926008]
The problem with the active content is the list of sites they put in. This alone would be enough for me to uninstall.
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If you're talking about the Automatic Program Scan, you can remove all of them and just have NPF notify you when one of those programs want access. You can then allow, deny or set up a rule.mvduDecember 8th, 2003, 09:57 PMNo, I'm not talking about that. Ads are by default enabled for this list of sites. I think I still like ZAP more anyway. NPF is so bloated.GraystokeDecember 9th, 2003, 03:30 AM{QUOTE-> quoting: mvdu link=board=23;threadid=17127;start=0#msg108421 date=1070938671]
No, I'm not talking about that. Ads are by default enabled for this list of sites. I think I still like ZAP more anyway. NPF is so bloated.
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Sorry about that. ::) I should have read a little slower then I would have known you were talking about ads feature. :)
I used to use ZAP also, but started to have some problems with it recently and decided to give NPF a try. Nothing against ZAP. It always worked great for me until recently. I really like NPF 2004. It runs very nice on my computer.mvduDecember 9th, 2003, 01:26 PMI can take out those sites in the list, but it's sleazy for Symantec to pre-configure them. Even Kazaa was in the list.
Otherwise, I like NPF's automatic rules configuration and IDS - but the outbound protection isn't quite as good as ZAP's.
Sorry you had problems with ZAP.CrazyMDecember 10th, 2003, 01:08 AM{QUOTE-> quoting: mvdu link=board=23;threadid=17127;start=0#msg108714 date=1070994405]I can take out those sites in the list, but it's sleazy for Symantec to pre-configure them. Even Kazaa was in the list. <-QUOTE}
I suspect the reason for the large list of sites may have something to do with the effectiveness of the proxy filter in the latest versions (NIS2003/04). The list is certainly larger (and updated now I believe) than in previous versions. There were alot of users having problems accessing popular sites when 2003 came out with the changes to the proxy filter. Probably easier to update the list than field all those support calls.
As always though, as you noted, the user can modify the list and delete those sites they may not want on the list or proxy setting for.
Regards,
CrazyMmvduDecember 10th, 2003, 04:35 PMWell, the list offends me - I'm not using NPF anyway, but I took the list off for another user.
It has one feature I really like, in that it does a security scan and tells you all the programs that have, or could have Internet access. Pretty scary, but it lets you block them. Also, it can block referrers and OS info which I like too. It shows stealth everywhere I've checked.
What I don't like is, typical of norton, the size, about 30MB, but I've got the room. Overall, with a couple of days under my belt, I sort of like it.mvduDecember 1st, 2003, 06:51 PMI like it (the packet filtering and IDS are nice,) but I often have trouble getting Norton's products working right on re-install. And companies like Zone Labs focus more on the firewall part.CrazyMDecember 2nd, 2003, 01:30 AMHi Chuck57
{QUOTE-> I just downloaded it to see what it was like. Does anyone have an opinion of it? <-QUOTE}
NIS/NPF is a good firewall. While the current interface and automatic rules make it easy for most, it still allows experienced users to customize the rule set.
{QUOTE-> It has one feature I really like, in that it does a security scan and tells you all the programs that have, or could have Internet access. Pretty scary, but it lets you block them. <-QUOTE}
Selecting to block all those Internet enabled applications you are not sure of or may not use when doing the application scan is an option. If you leave them unchecked (no rule), NIS/NPF will still prompt for a rule if and when they try to access the network (Internet) for the first time. Not being a big fan of cluttered rule sets, I prefer to leave them unchecked and let the firewall prompt.
{QUOTE-> Overall, with a couple of days under my belt, I sort of like it. <-QUOTE}
What you like and are most comfortable with using and configuring is always a factor in deciding what to use.
Regards,
CrazyMmvduDecember 7th, 2003, 12:16 PMAre there more opinions of the Norton firewall?
You might as well stay with NPF 2003 if you get it - NPF 2004 is pretty much the same.GraystokeDecember 8th, 2003, 02:39 AMI've been using NPF 2004 for about a month and a half now. I like it. It's really easy to set up and use right out of the box if you like, which is what I'm doing. It has a great pop up and ad blocker. I haven't seen a pop up/pop under or banner ad since I installed it. I am stealth at all the tests sites, GRC, PC Flank, and Sygate.
I ran the trial version of NPF 2003 just before 2004 came out. They're basically the same, but I had to have the new one. ;)mvduDecember 8th, 2003, 06:26 PMThe problem with the active content is the list of sites they put in. This alone would be enough for me to uninstall.GraystokeDecember 8th, 2003, 09:55 PM{QUOTE-> quoting: mvdu link=board=23;threadid=17127;start=0#msg108312 date=1070926008]
The problem with the active content is the list of sites they put in. This alone would be enough for me to uninstall.
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If you're talking about the Automatic Program Scan, you can remove all of them and just have NPF notify you when one of those programs want access. You can then allow, deny or set up a rule.mvduDecember 8th, 2003, 09:57 PMNo, I'm not talking about that. Ads are by default enabled for this list of sites. I think I still like ZAP more anyway. NPF is so bloated.GraystokeDecember 9th, 2003, 03:30 AM{QUOTE-> quoting: mvdu link=board=23;threadid=17127;start=0#msg108421 date=1070938671]
No, I'm not talking about that. Ads are by default enabled for this list of sites. I think I still like ZAP more anyway. NPF is so bloated.
<-QUOTE}
Sorry about that. ::) I should have read a little slower then I would have known you were talking about ads feature. :)
I used to use ZAP also, but started to have some problems with it recently and decided to give NPF a try. Nothing against ZAP. It always worked great for me until recently. I really like NPF 2004. It runs very nice on my computer.mvduDecember 9th, 2003, 01:26 PMI can take out those sites in the list, but it's sleazy for Symantec to pre-configure them. Even Kazaa was in the list.
Otherwise, I like NPF's automatic rules configuration and IDS - but the outbound protection isn't quite as good as ZAP's.
Sorry you had problems with ZAP.CrazyMDecember 10th, 2003, 01:08 AM{QUOTE-> quoting: mvdu link=board=23;threadid=17127;start=0#msg108714 date=1070994405]I can take out those sites in the list, but it's sleazy for Symantec to pre-configure them. Even Kazaa was in the list. <-QUOTE}
I suspect the reason for the large list of sites may have something to do with the effectiveness of the proxy filter in the latest versions (NIS2003/04). The list is certainly larger (and updated now I believe) than in previous versions. There were alot of users having problems accessing popular sites when 2003 came out with the changes to the proxy filter. Probably easier to update the list than field all those support calls.
As always though, as you noted, the user can modify the list and delete those sites they may not want on the list or proxy setting for.
Regards,
CrazyMmvduDecember 10th, 2003, 04:35 PMWell, the list offends me - I'm not using NPF anyway, but I took the list off for another user.